I Celebrate Christmas – A Response

Earlier today, I read Matt Conlon‘s blog post Merry CHRISTMAS Whether You Celebrate it or Not.  Go ahead and read his post; it’s well worth your time.  I’ll wait here until you’re done…

Great!  When you’re done here, I recommend you peruse his site for his other well-written posts and his webcomic Stick I.T.!

To lay all of my cards on the table, I am a practicing Catholic.  I take my faith and its tenets very seriously.  Although I am far from perfect, I do my best to live my faith daily.  There was a time, during high school and college, when I had fallen away from the practice.  During that time, I had investigated other faiths, in an academic way, as opposed to conversion or practice.  So, I do have knowledge and appreciation for other faiths from an intellectual standpoint.  However, I felt Jesus’s call very strongly to return to the faith into which I was born.

Now, Matt’s post touches on a lot of topics.  So, without further adieu…

Matt writes:

I usually try to stay clear of religion as a subject, because those who are devout have made up their minds, and will never listen to a thing a secular person has to say. Not only have they made up their minds, but they sometimes want to make up your mind as well. Religion aside, my believes / opinions are my own, and I’ll share them if you like, but I’ll never force them on another person, thus I expect the same. I get very irritated when someone tells me their beliefs are fact, and that I’m wrong, so I don’t do it to others. I make sure to say things like “In my opinion” when saying things, or I just don’t say anything.

You know, I am exactly the same way when it comes to discussing religion – I don’t like to talk about it with anyone other than my closest of friends and family.  It’s such a touchy subject, and very personal, which I believe is why people react so strongly when disagreements arise.  However, I have to say that, in my experience, I get more harshly negative, even hostile, responses from those who call themselves non-religious, atheist or agnostic.  They tend to belittle me, my faith, my beliefs, and anything else that has to do with God.  On the other hand, religious folks tend to react with genuine curiosity about my faith and willingness to explain their own.  While disagreements do arise at times, we tend to either steer clear of those subjects, or deal with them respectfully.

However, I think Matt and I are cut from the same cloth here.  I don’t try to force my beliefs onto anyone because I hate when others do that to me.  Now, I have to point out that beliefs in this sense are fact to those who adhere to them, and that includes non-religious as well.  But, if we act respectfully with regards to another’s belief, we can avoid so much conflict.

Matt continues:

Christmas: The birthday celebration of Jesus, as least as far as the Christians are concerned. Originally, it had nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity, but it made for a hell of a marketing gimmick, so they changed it.

Now, before you start rolling your eyes at yet another “Christians stole pagan holidays” post (which I HAVE done in the past), I’m not going to bother here… There’s enough controversy around the fact (note, I didn’t call it an idea though… 😉 ) so believe what you will. The fact remains, there was a year end celebration long before Jesus. Jesus came (allegedly) and now there’s no year end celebration for the pagans… Coincidence??

Matt is correct: Christmas was originally a pagan holiday, which was then absorbed, if you will, into the Christian religious practice.  This only makes sense; when converting a people to your religion, you need not only to change their beliefs, but their customs and practices.  If a culture is used to certain observances of, say, the winter solstice, then they will most likely want to keep that tradition.  So, what would an evangelist do?  If you can’t change the tradition, change its meaning.  This is a common tool not only in Christianity, but other religions as well, both ancient and modern.

By the way, many biblical scholars think that Jesus’s birth actually took place in the spring, closer to Easter than Christmas.  I have no problem with this, either.  Many times I can’t celebrate my daughters’ birthdays on their actual birthdate because they fall during the week.  Just because I celebrate the birthday on a different date doesn’t mean they were born on that date; nor does it mean that I love them any less.  It is simply an observation of their birthday.

I assume Christians’ hostile reaction to the “Christmas was originally a pagan holiday” statement is that nonbelievers try to use it to discredit the faith.  As I said, I don’t find it a threat at all.

ANYWAY. My beef here is that MOST of the world recognizes Christmas at LEAST as a holiday where kids get gifts from a fat guy who spies on us when we’re sleeping. Everyone knows what Christmas is, and every one’s heard of the Christmas spirit, even if they’ve never shared in it. It’s the spirit if giving, good will, blahblahblah.

That’s actually a funny way to phrase it: a fat guy who spies on us, etc..  I love it!

ANYWAY… actually, I agree with Matt here.  The Christmas Season (or, if you insist, Holiday Season) is definitely a secular observation.  Were it not, then only Christians would take off from work, school, and life in general on or around December 25th.  The fact that MOST of the world (actually, I’m not sure of the world, but certainly Western civilization) takes a week or two break at this time is a recognition of its religious origin.

The remainder of Matt’s post is disturbing to me.  To be forbidden from using the word “Christmas” on all cards due to one child’s faith is ridiculous.  Requesting that the students not use the word “Christmas” on cards to that one child is not only well within reason, but also simply courteous.  I vehemently disagree with removing all references to a religion due to one person’s objection.  I support an individual’s right to celebrate (or not) whatever their religion may (or may not) be.

Finally, as a religious person, I am very sensitive to others’ differing viewpoints.  Most often, I will wish someone a “Happy Holiday,” especially if I am unsure if they are Christian.  If I know for certain that they are Christian, I will wish them a “Merry Christmas.”  Likewise, if I am certain they are Jewish, I will wish them a “Happy Hanukkah.”  The point is, I wish everyone good tidings at this time of year.


3 comments on “I Celebrate Christmas – A Response

  1. Matt Conlon says:

    Excellent post! and thanks for the linkage! I will post some comments, but I think the two of us have spoken enough on the subject, and I’m dying to hear what some other’s have said.

    I will let others have their say before weighing in further! And as promised, I shall now go link to your post! 🙂

  2. kathulhu says:

    I think it’s pretty obvious that I’m not a very religious person but I have a lot of friends who are. One of the things that I like the most about them is that they are shining examples of their faith. What I mean by this is that all of the positive things that religion teaches – kindness to others, do good deeds, respect others, do unto others as you would have done unto you, etc. – they live up to these ideals and they do it in a fashion that shows me that they truly believe in these things. And they do it in a way that is not judgmental. I also admire their commitment to their faith. It’s not an easy thing to believe in something that you have no physical proof of.

    I have a hard time embracing that, myself. I like all those positive tenements and I try to live my life that way, too even if I don’t know if God exists or not. I also have a lot of atheist & agnostic friends who are the same way.

    I don’t like extreme views on either end of the spectrum – those who say the other side is absolutely wrong. It makes me uncomfortable because there is no way to prove one way or the other that either side is right. The only thing we can do is to go by what is in our heart and try to live our OWN lives according to that and to let others live by what is in their heart. As long as we aren’t hurting anyone or breaking any laws, why should we judge?

    • BeefGriller says:


      I wouldn’t say that it’s “pretty obvious that [you are not] a very religious person” from my interactions with you. But, then again, you might say the same with me… I don’t know. Either way, belief is just that – you have a strong “feeling,” if you will, that what you believe is true. I am a very logical person, but my faith cannot be proven or disproven by logic. Those who do not believe, I am sure, feel the same way, but take a “default deny” view. All that I can do about that is pray for them.

      I know that arguing will not change their mind – indeed, it will only serve to entrench them in their disbelief. So, I let it go, and instead focus on our commonalities.

      I’ve learned throughout my life that extremities lead to nothing but conflict. The way to convince anyone of any viewpoint is slow, patient, quiet demonstration. If it rings true to them, they may eventually come around. I am no evangelist loudly proclaiming Truth on the streets.

      Lastly, we are much alike with respect to your last two sentences. I live my life according to my own conscience, and try not to judge others, as long as they bring no harm to other people. Their souls may be another story, but I am forbidden to judge them in that regard by my faith.

      Thank you for your response. 🙂

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